Prophetic Interview With Lance Wallnau & Mario Murillo


When did “repentance” become a bad word for Christians? What is really going on right now? Are believers distracting themselves with conspiracies or positioning themselves to hear divine personal directives? Those who are easily led follow the story they are being told, but leaders ask the right questions. Here is a powerful prophetic interview with a messenger that delivers answers to the questions we ought to be asking.

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  1. Christians must now reflect upon their current reality, their understanding and interpretation of the bible, the true meaning of salvation and what God’s Will is.

    Christians have overstated the significance of grace and spiritual salvation believing that faith alone is going to get us right with God, without recognising the importance of works, keeping God’s Commandments, including Jesus’ message about the Kingdom, and what he exhorted his followers to do.

    Why does God give commandments? Because man has always had a portion of responsibility to fulfil in the accomplishment of God’s Will and Purpose of Creation. There are things that we need to do as created beings, created in the image of God in order to attain our own individual maturity and perfection, which means to become one in heart with God. Responsibility inherently means to do something, which requires sacrifice and hard work as in Paul telling the Philippians ‘to work out their salvation in fear and trembling’. Similarly:

    James 1:2 “Count it all joy, my brethren, when you meet various trials, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. 4 And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing”.

    James 2 Entire Chapter

    Acts 14:22 “strengthening the souls of the disciples, exhorting them to continue in the faith, and saying that through many tribulations we must enter the kingdom of God”.

    Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who ‘wash their robes’, that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates”.

    Adam and Eve were given a Commandment, not as a test, but as something they had to accomplish as part of their portion of responsibility to spiritually grow and mature, in order to achieve perfection and become one with God. In life, it’s not enough to just believe in someone, we have to practise and do something of our own accord. That is why God gave us free will plus the Commandment. God gave man responsibility in order to accomplish God’s Will and become a co-creator and heir. That is the meaning of sonship and daughtership.

    Had Adam and Eve kept the Commandment and perfected themselves in the love of God, they then would have become the horizontal ‘True Parents’ on earth, as God is the vertical ‘True Parent’ in Heaven. Genesis 1:26-28

    Adam and Eve would then have established a sinless true family, and therefore God’s direct lineage on earth through their children, multiplying that lineage from generation to generation. That would be the beginning of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth.

    Had that occurred there would have been no need for a Saviour or Messiah. That only became necessary because of Adam and Eve’s disobedience – the Fall of Man. Jesus came to restore the failure of Adam and therefore God’s original ideal of creation. Jesus stood in the position of perfected Adam and therefore he needed his bride in the position of restored Eve to establish what God had wanted Adam and Eve to do originally, establish a sinless true family.

    Isaiah 46:11 “I have spoken, and I will bring it to pass; I have purposed, and I will do it”.

    God’s purpose of creation has not changed. What God originally purposed will be achieved.

    Therefore for God’s Will to be accomplished, man must also fulfil his portion of responsibility given by God as Adam and Eve should have done in the Garden.

    God’s portion of responsibility + man’s portion of responsibility =The accomplishment of God’s Will.

    This is comparable to everyday life, from learning to walk, feeding ourselves, going to school or to work, passing exams, playing sport, gaining promotion. Achieving anything in life requires sacrifice and hard work. If you want to be a great pianist or swimmer, you have to practise, making sacrifices to achieve the standard required or to achieve your own personal goals. What do we call that, “You have to work at it”, yes that’s right – works. Practice makes perfect. No matter how much you may believe in something, if you don’t work at it, you will not accomplish it. Phil 2:12.

    Similarly, “As you sow you reap”. If you don’t sow anything, you won’t reap anything. The Parable of the Talents, and Jesus’ example and what he asked us to do:

    John 13:12 “When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. “Do you understand what I have done for you?” he asked them. 13 “You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and rightly so, for that is what I am. 14 Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. 15 I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. 16 Very truly I tell you, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. 17 Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them”.

    That is why God Himself said “I have spoken, and I will bring it to pass; I have purposed, and I will do it”. It took God billions of years to create the Universe. ‘Seven days’ being seven epochs of creation. An epoch being a very long time.

    What do you think God has been doing for the past ‘6000’ years and Jesus for the last 2000 years. Do you think they have been sitting on their ‘derrières’ polishing a couple of thrones?

    Did America become prosperous because we just wished or prayed for it to happen? No, it required hard work with a lot of blood, sweat and tears. So America and Christians around the world must wake up and pull their heads out of the sand. We have to seek and build God’s Kingdom first with or without the Messiah, just as the Israelites built the temple which was the symbolic image of Jesus who was the ‘perfected temple’ of God. Similarly for ourselves we must ultimately perfect ourselves becoming God’s temple. 1 Cor 3:16, Mt 5:48.

    Why were the Israelites continually getting into trouble? They were not keeping God’s Commandments as so for Adam and Eve. They kept going off the plantation and doing what they shouldn’t be doing. How about Christians today, apart from saying we believe in Jesus, what else are we doing when America and the West is going down the toilet?

    When you are in the Spirit World and you tell Jesus you accepted him as your Lord and Saviour and he asks, “What did you do to seek His Kingdom and His Righteousness, build God’s House in the nation, and perfect your own temple”, what are you going to say when he says, “Depart from me you evildoer, I never knew, you didn’t do the Will of my Father in Heaven”.

    Kingdom means government and governance:

    Luke 1:32 “He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give to him the throne of his father David, 33 and he will reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there will be no end.” Isaiah 9:6

    We are the stewards of that Kingdom (America), to take care of it, as the servants in the ‘Parable of the Talents’ were to take care of their master’s talents when he left to go on a long journey. After some time he returned, as Christ will, to settle accounts and ask what we did with our talents, the grace and the Word he gave to us.

    Even for Simon Peter when he reproached Jesus about going the way of the cross, Jesus rebuked him in the strongest terms. He rebuked the Scribes and Pharisees. As the embodiment of the Word, he was setting a very high ‘internal standard’ for people to follow. That standard is centred on the heart of God, not external realities. Attending God is attending God’s heart, His purpose of Creation expressed as His Will. Attending means listening. ‘Hear O Israel’. A true son ‘li-sons’.

    Adam and Eve didn’t listen, the Israelites didn’t listen, have Christians listened? No, they heard what they wanted to hear. Hence the egregious state of America. Because Christians didn’t listen, America fell and became Babylon in which Christians subsequently became captives. President Trump is now your Cyrus, now you must re-align yourselves with God’s Will, seeking His Kingdom, His House, His Homeland and His Temple. President Trump is affording America and the world that opportunity.

    ‘Wash your robes so you will be able to enter the city by the gate’, which means ‘to work on oneself’, wash is a verb, a doing word, because Christians must prepare themselves for the Second Coming. Is your temple ready, will you be able to receive him? If you are not prepared, you may not recognise your Saviour, and it will then be Christians who actually persecute Christ when he returns. Preparation for anything is important in order to establish a correlative base for what you need to understand or recognise. In this case the Lord of the Second Advent.

    This is why we are going through this shaking and tribulation, to wake us up to the reality of how the real world works and how God is working. God’s Will is accomplished through the same principles He created the universe, that doesn’t change. The Principles of re-creation are the same as the principles of creation. The mathematical and scientific principles God used in Creation are the same as in re-creation and the restoration of His Ideal.

    Jesus was born of a woman, even though the Jewish people would have construed Daniel’s prophecy implying something else. Dan 7:13-14

    John the Baptist was born of woman, Jesus was born of woman, and so is Christ at his Second Coming. Rev 12:5.

    That is why Christians are going to have a major problem, because 99.99% of Christians believe Jesus is returning on the literal clouds of Heaven, not being born on the earth. So how are you going to be able to recognise him when the bible also warns of anti-Christs and false prophets claiming to be the Christ. How will you know the difference?

    That is why you need to have a well developed prayer life so you can ask God. However, if you don’t even consider this possibility then you will never ask that question, so God can never answer you nor provide that understanding unsolicited. That is again man’s portion of responsibility to actively seek the truth, and not just expect it to be handed to us on a platter, or that somehow we will know, and that everything will just work out for us. It won’t. It didn’t for the Jewish people.

    Furthermore, the truth he brings as Jesus spoke of, will lead us into all truth, so from his teachings you should then also be able to understand who he is.

    John 16:13 “When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come”.

    John 16:25 “I have said this to you in figures; the hour is coming when I shall no longer speak to you in figures but tell you plainly of the Father”.

    The entire purpose and goal of human history has been for ‘the chosen people’ to receive the Messiah, firstly at the time of Jesus, and secondly at his Second Coming. That is why God originally raised up the Jewish people, and since Jesus’ death, Christians. Without receiving Christ at his Second Coming, Christians will not be part of God’s Kingdom, and therefore people not necessarily seeking or knowing God, will inherit the Blessing. As in the ‘Parable of the Wedding Banquet’ where the invited guests didn’t come, so the King sent out his servants to the highways and byways to invite anyone to come as long as they wore the correct attire.

    In this scenario it is the Christians who will be wailing and gnashing their teeth for having missed their opportunity to welcome their Bridegroom.

    Therefore what is in your heart will ultimately determine whether you can receive the Lord of the Second Advent, not signs and wonders, for that is for an ‘evil and adulterous generation’. Furthermore, we know from Luke 17:20, ‘the Kingdom is not coming with signs to be observed’, ‘because the Kingdom of God is in the midst of you’. That rules out Jesus coming on the clouds.

    To the extent we embody the Word by practising it, emulating Jesus, is the extent to which we will recognise the Second Coming of Christ. History repeats, but Israel’s failure to ‘know the time of their visitation’ is the one thing you don’t want to repeat, because there is a strong likelihood of doing just that.

    Christians must now ask God about the Second Coming, how, when and where is the Second Coming taking place?

    Mt 7:7 “Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? 11 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him”!

    This again is man’s portion of responsibility to do that. God is waiting for you to ask. You need to ask the right question to get the right answer as mentioned by Lance in this video.

  2. My heart was so overwhelmed w/joy to see both of you together, my encounter w/Mario Murrilo goes back 45 yrs ago in calif, it’s wonderful to see the same foundation in the Lord that Mario has his desire to speak w/a voice of humbleness & humility, thats grown more thru the years, Mario’s authority in understanding spiritual as opposed to the flesh has each been placed in the space that each has and neither bleeds into the other. just to see in Mario’s eyes his humility and Love for Yeshua in such a grace & humble respect for the son of the living God, makes it difficult not to have tears of joy sream from my eyes. I am very thankful to Adonai, that you and Lance are yourselves and not a carbon copy of a theology school or a mentor, like when I close my eyes, I can tell the theology school & mentor that the person speaking cane from, but the reality, that you are both exactly who God made you and not a copy or style of someone else, how blessed we are to be able to learn from both of you. I would like to share w/u the power in the Name YESHUA, that is the name of the Son of God, not Jesus, also Adonai is The God of Abraham Issac and Jacob, the Holy one of Isreal, an he is the only God the creator of the Universe Barach atah Adonai Eliheynu Malek olam Adonai our God the only God creator of the universe . I really believe that Hebrew is a magical language and very mystical, and the words have a greater power. I’m praying that I will in Gods right timing have a chance to meet both of you, it would mean so much, I’m 77 years old on 4/20. Thank you for providing space for comments. I’m not good at putting into words how I feel.

  3. Someone recently gave me your name and I have watched several of your video’s on YouTube. This one with Mario M and with Sparks. I love all your words and bear witness with your words. The Lord is giving you great incite and I will keep listening. This country needs voices like yours. Thank you!
    Chuck G.

  4. Your leading us on worship is a GREAT blessing. If your voice gives out the anointing on your piano carries us on. Consider including more worship in your updates.

  5. After watching your broadcast, this is the scripture the Lord gave me regarding the current church of today (it’s leaders/pastors) See: Ezekiel Chapter 34 Verses 1 through 6.

  6. Hello Dr. Wallnau, we live in the Philippines, I moved here just over 4 years ago, and I just found you about 2 weeks ago. So much of what you are saying via your youtube vids ressonate with me. You mentioned why has repentance become a bad word for Christians? Because of the hypergrace movement, which teaches repentance is works and the cross is the “finished work of Christ.” Repentance is a lack of faith in the work of Christ is another line I have heard.

    Since I was a small child laying in my mothers lap in the old tent revivals in the deep south, I have watched the churches decline in their zeal. I remember the old gravel voice preachers preaching their hearts out weaping for sinners. The old songs blessed Jesus hold my hand, there is power power wonder working power in the precious blood of the Lamb and momma rocking me as she sang and fanned me with those old paper fans with pictures of Jesus on them.

    As I look around today, I see churches with rock bands and black paint and stage lighting. Expensive sound equipment and padded seats and big A/C’S to keep everyone comfy and cosy. But the one thing I dont see, is an altar. My Grandmother was methodist. And way back there in the early 1900’s she went to the “mourners bench,” aka altar where as she said she repented of her sins and directly the Good Lord filled her with the Holy Ghost. And did I mention, she was Methodist?

    What happened to the church? I see these things and hear them. I preach against the sodomite agenda which here in the Philippines is run rampant. People just listen, and do nothing. And I know, its because we dont hear about repentance and we allowed the altar of the Lord to fall into disrepair. And thats because we have left our first love. We need to repair the altar. And return to the ancient borders.

    God bless

    1Ki 18:30 
    And Elijah said unto all the people, Come near unto me. And all the people came near unto him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD that was broken down.